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{  January 27, 2004  }

Thoughts on Dennis Miller

Last night was the premiere of Dennis Miller's new show on CNBC, and being the unabashed news junkie that I am, I had to tune in to see what kind of flavor Dennis Miller would bring to the CNBC table.

Historically, CNBC has almost always broadcast serious, button-down, business programming, but in the last couple of years has experimented with their own news/entertainment prime time ventures to keep pace with the other cable news outfits. Kudlow & Cramer, one of the network's first forays into aggressive, talk-radio style prime time programming (and an amazing example of how two wonks can turn corporate balance sheets into a full contact sport), has been a longtime guilty favorite of mine. So the news that Dennis Miller would be joining the fray and offering his own political talk show sounded promising. Done well, the show could be CNBC's own "Daily Show" of political comedy, commentary, and interviews.

Now, perhaps Miller had opening night jitters (he seemed parched, pale, and off tempo), but the problems with his new show go much deeper. For one, the format is basically a retread of his cancelled HBO show. As in, it's Dennis Miller's show - see my name at the bottom of your screen? - you're going to have to sit there and endure my face shrouded in an angelic white light on a dimly-lit stage as I smirk, bob my head, and toss metaphors like hand grenades into your living room.

Then came the interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger, which was hardly an opening night exclusive considering Miller worked on Arnold's campaign when he was running for Governor. The interview came off like you would expect. Thereafter, more of the same -- Miller standing in front of a monitor displaying news wire photos, cracking jokes. Oddly, the audience was either incredibly small, or asleep, for each bit elicited barely audible snickers.

And then in the final seconds of our reheated leftovers, Miller said, "That's the news and I am out of here." Sound familiar?

Miller has never been a favorite of mine, but he's obviously a witty, talented commentator who relishes in torching the rich, the powerful, and the insipid. But what's so utterly disappointing about his CNBC venture is the total lack of original thinking. Miller seems comfortable moving the same schtick he's employed since hosting the anchor desk at SNL around to whatever network is currently interested in having him, without attempting any new programming ideas. Perhaps his show will find new legs and grow into something unique, but after last night I doubt I'll be tuning in again anytime soon.

Comments

I, too, am sort of a news junkie. For the past year or so, I've been a Daily Show addict. So I was looking forward to Miller's new show. But to my disappointment, I'll have to agree with you 100%. I couldn't even sit through the whole thing it was so painful. It all just seemed like dress rehearsal or something. Not at all well done and polished.

Posted by: Baasch at January 27, 2004 9:39 AM

I completely agree. What a disappointment. My wife kept asking me, "Why are we watching this again?"

Posted by: Dave at January 27, 2004 10:03 AM

I caught the last 10 minutes of the new show and at one point he mentioned that there wasn't a studio audience. He said directly to the camera that there were only a handful of crew standing around. You could hear the same voices laughing after a few minutes.

Miller wasn't into the show at all. He looked like someone fulfilling a contract they couldn't get out of. The SNL sign off at the end was tiresome and uninspiring which pretty much sums up the show.

Posted by: Jay Kerr at January 27, 2004 10:04 AM

That schtick is tired indeed. The Daily Show seems more evenhanded in its treatment of Dems and GOPs - and is more focused on satirizing po-faced news reporting itself - but Miller's avowed Republican ties (and support for a candidate who's gonna give Enron a walk for the state charges currently pending) would seem to preclude being able to really dish it out to all sides.

Posted by: AJ at January 27, 2004 10:04 AM

On that note, anyone in Canada check out the new Rick Mercer show last Monday?

Posted by: AJ at January 27, 2004 10:06 AM

Hey AJ, you know what I know. Rick Mercer's Monday Night on CBC is a great review of the weeks news and political highlights AND it's quite funny.

Much akin to This Hour Has 22 Minutes though without the sketch comedy.

Posted by: spick at January 27, 2004 10:52 AM

Dennis never claimed it to be a balanced show, so don't expect it to be that. He is not a journalist, he is a comedian at heart who makes fun of politicians.

I do think he needs a studio audience. It does sound a little "dry" without one. I never reallized how much a difference a studio audience can make on the tempo fo a show.

Posted by: Woody at January 27, 2004 11:58 AM

What's this I heard about a monkey in a diaper?

Posted by: gwint at January 27, 2004 3:34 PM

dennis miller hasn't been funny for almost 10 years, ever since he started to believe his own hype and stopped caring enough to actually memorize his material, relying on teleprompter, crib sheets, stafff writers and self satisfied laughter. i used to be a huge miller fan, i saw him 3 times live and own most of his CDs, but he just lost it, like i said, about 10 years ago.

miller does help prove my theory that there are no funny republicans though.

Posted by: duncan at January 27, 2004 4:24 PM

Dennis Miller is great! It's a shame that he's on the lame-o CNBC. Give the show time. It WILL improve.

No funny republicans? Kelsey Grammer!

Besides, if your looking for laughs, just check out the parade of losers running all over N.H. this week. Now that's funny!

Posted by: TF at January 27, 2004 7:54 PM

Woody- I recently saw Dennis Miller do stand up on cable and was left slack jawed. He didn't do comedy, he let loose an ultra right wing personal-opinion-as-fact diatribe. This new show adds to the list of extremists posing as conservatives. Don't be surprised if Miller runs for public office!

Posted by: hasan at January 28, 2004 8:35 PM

tf, i don't think grammer is funny so much as a good actor with funny material. he has good comic timing and great writers. still i won't split hairs, fair enough. i also think that bob dole, post 1996, has been a very funny guy, i always enjoy his commentary.

my point was, i could sit down right now and list off 20-30 very funny people who are of the liberal persuasion (including grammer who does call himself a liberal), but i couldn't do the same with republicans. i can maybe think of one other guy, jay mohr, who might be a conservative.

Posted by: duncan at January 28, 2004 10:16 PM

"my point was, i could sit down right now and list off 20-30 very funny people who are of the liberal persuasion"

Funny is a personal opinion. Jeanne Garfalo to me is not funny, but is probably on your list.

The fact that you find dems funny but repubs not points more to your political onpions and not to any ignorant 'theory'.

Posted by: thomas at January 29, 2004 12:29 AM

of course republicans are funny. look at their performance piece in the current white house. now that's funny.

looking to government for anything except entertainment is foolish, children.

remember, when the plane is craahing, throw your arms in the air and yell "WHOOOO!" it can be a good ride if you laugh at everything. expecially my thoughts. stay crazy.

peter smith

Posted by: peter smith at January 29, 2004 1:47 PM

Let me get this straight...CNBC is going to have Dennis Miller host a political TV show? Dennis Miller??? As an already irrelevant cable channel, is it CNBC's plan to achieve world-class irrelevancy?? I mean c'mon...Dennis Miller???? (sorry to keep repeating myself, but it is just so bizarre.)

In case they had not been paying attention, he was a side show in his "heyday" on SNL, completely overshadowed by the brilliance of people like Adam Sandler for chrissake. He was an unmitigated disaster on MNF. He does not not have the integrity to stick by the largely liberal views he widely promoted in his routines (one wink and wiggle from GW converted him to unabashed conservativism and being a Bush lap dog). And most of all, he is painfully unfunny and in reality, always has been. I mean, it isn't even really fair to call him a "has-been" because in reality, he "never was." Thank god I don't hold stock in NBC.

I mean really....DENNIS FREAKIN MILLER?????????

Posted by: Dan at January 29, 2004 4:48 PM

I've been watching. Better each night.

Posted by: Jason Fried at January 29, 2004 5:09 PM

Tangetially, the one huge regret I have about getting rid of cable is missing Kudlow & Kramer. Flat out the best business/politics show on TV. Actual civil discussions on the issue at hand, and for longer than 5 minutes.

My. $0.02.

Posted by: Matt at January 29, 2004 9:36 PM

I haven't seen the new show yet, but I'm hoping to catch it soon. I have always enjoyed Dennis Miller and was disappointed when his HBO show was cancelled. Sure, it's the same old schtick, but it works. (Well, so long as it's not on Monday Night Football.)

Posted by: Scott Johnsons at January 30, 2004 12:35 AM

Dennis Miller is "obviously a witty, talented commentator who relishes in torching the rich, the powerful, and the insipid"?

Since when is making fun of 4000 people (at Kraft) who have lost their jobs funny?


Dennis Miller promised 'something different" in his new show. He came through. He's no longer funny.

Miller will do for CNBC what he did for Monday Night Football -- nothing good.

I hope the next time he says "I'm out of here," it's permanent.

Bob

Posted by: Bob at January 31, 2004 2:00 PM

bob, relax. it's all funny. this is earth, the arkansas of the galaxy.

we are like mold on an orange, which sets us free. everything we do is while we are waiting to have sex or die. (or both, evidently.)
giggle. may as well. nothing else works.

peter

Posted by: peter at January 31, 2004 3:44 PM

Miller always seemed to me to be on the side of thinking people everywhere. I liked him in the old SNL days, and thought his sub-referencing style with all its interior logic was really pretty brilliant.

I now avoid him like the plague due to his Schwarzenegger assistance. and his seeming inability to be himself. The Monday night football thing was the deathknell, I'm afraid. And now that he's an apologist for Republicans, I'm through with him.

Posted by: Nick at February 2, 2004 4:51 PM

I have not seen his new show, but I do know he's an idiot and not a funny one either.

Posted by: Anders at February 4, 2004 4:22 PM

Ever notice the scowl he has when his guests are answering his questions. He calls Dean scary and intense.

Posted by: Bill at February 10, 2004 7:10 PM

Ironically this message board stuffed full of idiots throwing opinions around Dennis Miller is pretty much set up like his show...NO ONE cares esp. Dennis wheather you think he's funny or not, what your political beliefs are or his. If you don't enjoy his show turn it off and press on with life. I'm sure most of you don't understand Dennis anyway and would rather watch a reality show...course you'd probably find something wrong with reality also...huh...ironic once again...And to all you Dems out there bashing your President/republicans, I happen to be one serving in the military,fighting, protecting, and serving that President and this country so you have the time and freedom to post your sorry opinions...YOUR WELCOME!!

Posted by: AARON at February 12, 2004 2:05 AM

YOUR WELCOME!!


us and our lousy opinions didn't send you to another country. that would be the prez's lousy opinions that did that. i would just as soon you were home not getting shot at or blown up.

Posted by: peter at February 17, 2004 12:37 PM

Well Pete,

I'm not one to question the actions of our President based on a descision that needed to be done and done now. There's more to it than the people, media and even Dennis Miller are to know. No one in there right and honest mind can say they know what they would have done if they were Pres. including the Dems. Do a little bit deeper research, beyond newspaper/TV/opinions and give it some time. Give every reaction some time, the best outcome isn't always immediate!!

Posted by: AARON at February 18, 2004 12:11 AM

where did you get this jerk. send him back. give him a tractor so he can pull his head out of his - - -. mike

Posted by: mike mincieli at February 18, 2004 9:13 PM

aaron, it's your job to question the president. it's your job to question everything, from the bible to me to the boy scouts to ralph nader. this is how we keep this country moving in pro-human directions. and it's fun.
p.

Posted by: peter at March 2, 2004 1:55 PM

Dennis acts a little uncomfortable so far, but I gotta go with Aaron: no one's forcing you to watch him. It's a free country-- oh, that also means that people, including celebrities, have every right to speak their minds, CHANGE their minds, change the channel, and go Howie-Dean-nuts every now and then. I personally am a fan and I hope he finds his stride.

Posted by: sibbie at March 3, 2004 1:37 PM

Oh, and about the scowl thing: I find it painfully ironic that in a society where we place so much value on diversity, individuality and expression that everyone is expected to curb their personal feelings and opinions to avoid seeming controversial. Are you kidding? I think Dennis is beautiful when he's angry, and his rights to express himself end only where they intrude on someone else's rights. I don't always agree with him, but I encourage everyone to stop holding back.

"I will never ever ever ever ever write a song about the sibbie."

Posted by: sibbie at March 3, 2004 1:45 PM

Pete, I never said not to question, of course we should question, especially when we aren't sure or feel comfortable, however, When something of that magnatude happens and a decision must be made, I will follow the one person in charge, respect his passion, putting myself in his shoes knowing what was done was done because of commitment. The fact that there are people out there that preach freedom and democracy and blah,blah,blah then critisize and pick apart the very ones that EARN (provide)it...well I'm glad there is a God. Question all you want, have all the fun you want, just be glad there's some that lead and others that follow.

Posted by: Aaron at March 3, 2004 10:29 PM

Miller's agent must think that because he's a comic genius (which he may be), that makes him a 'football' genius or a 'financial' genius. Hardly. Genius is not necessarily intelligence, as was revealed in his embarrassing conversation with Maria Bartiromo the other night when Miller got a stiff dose of his own medicine from someone with an ego to match his own.

Posted by: rbrewer at March 16, 2004 6:57 AM

The chimp is actually the VP of Programming at CNBC, so I'm told by Crazy Cramer (however Kudlow will not confirm).

If Dennis goes, so will the monkey. Fox News wants neither. I pleaded with Bill and Sean to no avail, as they must figure there's too many aholes at Fox already.

There's always Vegas.

Posted by: carbonboy at March 18, 2004 10:23 PM

18, 2004 12:11 AM
Well Pete,

I’m not one to question the actions of our President based on a descision that needed to be done and done now.


you are exactly the one to question, because you care. i think i may never vote again, because i know who will win. a white guy in a suit.
p.

Posted by: peter at March 19, 2004 1:17 PM

apparently dennis is melting down. see a story in the current new york observer, available on line. scary.
p.

Posted by: peter at April 5, 2004 2:42 PM

What a selective group of liberal duds. You clowns really don't have a sense of humor, If its funny laugh, forget your one-sided 24-7 agenda. You probably don't care for Carlin or Robin Williams. Good ol Lenny probably made you hyper-ventilate. TURN the channel its ok.

Posted by: micheal at April 30, 2004 11:47 PM

Maybe it's that liberals take themselves so seriously they to can't laugh at there own foibles. Drop the friggin' latte and lighten up folks. Miller is still funny amybe it's you who have no sense of humor.

Posted by: SAm WHite at May 1, 2004 7:46 AM

Having seen comments on Dennis Miller's show for 5/7/04 pertaining to prisoner abuse, I am appalled at how he justifies this. No matter what-as Americans- never can we justify doing atrocities- how can we in all conscience justify Hitler in extermination of Jews by extermination of Germans? I am ashamed at this sick show that uses supposed humor in ways of pursuing his agenda for the Republicans. This is a shocking beginning of an inner fight over the issue at hand. Wrong is wrong!

Posted by: Delo White at May 7, 2004 9:58 PM

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